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Eden in Germany and some Questions
« le: 14 Avril 2016 à 21:41:44 »

Hey we started eden in our club in Stuttgart some month ago.
Eden is one of the best tt i played yet. I really like the game mechanics and i think the balance between the factions is really great. So i bought isc, joker, askaris and horde completly.
We also play a lot multiplayer games. For 3 ppl its great. For 4 ppl its good, but 75 points is to low for isc and askaris in my oppinion.

I just saw the new figures and missions in the april release. I will buy the new isc and the new horde model for sure but i have some questions.
1. Is the new mission in english also with the big deep?
2. Olya v2 is great but i have v1 already. Is there a new character card with new stats or skills or is it just a design update?
3. Dgin turrets and ancient artefacts have are again available. I own both already. Is the new multiplayer mission also in english?
4. Will the .pdf be updated with the new figures?

Greez Bernie

PS: My english is bad, but i do not speak French...
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Re : Eden in Germany and some Questions
« Réponse #1 le: 15 Avril 2016 à 09:53:34 »

Hello !
Hapy to see german community here ! Welcome ! :D

My english is as poor as yours, so I will answer quickly :D

1 I think the new horde mission will only bein the starter pack horde. However, it will be downloadable soon (see point 4 ;) )
2 Olya is mostly a design update, but she also have a few modification (she loose "killing dance" and gain "perfect defense"). Her card will also be downloadable quickly.
3 We don't know for now if the multiplayers missions cards will be downloadable or not... wait and see...
4 We ask for month to update the "download" section, and we had good news two days ago. The update is about to be upload, just fews days left. :)

To finish, feel free to play 4 players game with 100points in each army. We have done this frequently (in tournament's first round, for most, were we can not change army during the day) and it's perfectly suitable. Maybe longer playing time...

Good game in Eden's apocalypse ! :D
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Re : Eden in Germany and some Questions
« Réponse #2 le: 27 Avril 2016 à 20:13:52 »

Hey i just saw the new .pdf in french. When will the english version be updated?
Will there all askaris mutations in the new .pdf?

I can't wait to get my new models :D
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« Réponse #3 le: 09 Mai 2016 à 21:56:13 »

Wilkommen im Éden !
Ich habe niche se it sehr lang Deutsch gesprochen aber wenn du Fragen hast, du musst nicht zaudern...
Ich kann vieilleicht dich erklaren...

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« Réponse #4 le: 13 Novembre 2017 à 11:35:15 »

Bonjour à tous,
hello together,
hallo zusammen,

I started to play EDEN with a friend of mine some time ago and we are trying to “recruit” more players in our tabletop-group and even friendly player-groups in our area. The area I talk about is Bavaria in Germany. We are going to present the game on our upcoming Gaming Day and really try to bring EDEN to the people.
My main gang is Convoy. Well, I studied cartography and I am from Bavaria… I had to choose them! But I love their playstyle and that “Mad-Max” look too. So, my first questions refer to translations and basic understanding of character-cards from Convoy. Maybe some of them can be answered here, for further questions in future I think I will post on “Rules and Strategy” topic.

1)   Otto: He is stated as an “Escort” kind of fighter. He is the only one of the convoy characters. Should he not be “Guardian”?
2)   Friedrich: “Insatiable”: Is that +1 VIG bonus always referred to the basic characteristic of a fighter, or also to the modified characteristic of the opponent (for example bonus of Vassiliev “double strike”).
3)   Jeremias: His special ability should be “Hide” instead of “Cache”, right?
4)   Leo: “Good dog” refers to “Escort”. Same problem like explained with Otto. Makes more sense if it refers to “Guardian” for me.
5)   Mark: “Wolf trap”. What if the opponent fighter has a mount (for example unicicle). Does he also suffer a wound in the leg, or gets the bike checked for one point? Additionally in equipment, the “pui(2)” should be replaced with “Str(2)”.
6)   Erhard: Is it true that in contrary to “First Aid”, the ability “Medi-Kit” is not usable on Erhard himself?
7)   Special rules of the convoy: Should “Escort” be replaced by “Guardian”? I am not very sure about what does “mostly composed of” mean. If I field 3 Tracker, 2 Guardian and 2 Conveyor, the tracker has a higher number than guardian or conveyor, but not the highest number in total. So, if I consider “number of fighters”, I think I do not get the bonus, right? If I field 2 Tracker, 2 Guardian and 1 Conveyor, can I choose the bonus of Tracker?
8)   In general: If a mount (like unicycle) is completely checked, do additional hits in location 5 or 6 have no effect or do the legs get hit (the location 4). I guess, they have no effect unless I relocate and pay with hits until I get to the legs.

If you want, I am willing to help with translations into German language too, not only Convoy, but maybe all EDEN cards. But to be able, I thought it might make sense to have a 100% correct English version of the cards. Please don’t get me wrong, this should not be an “smart-ass” post, I just want to make EDEN more accessible for new players. Sorry for the long post but I really hope you can help me here. I hope you are able to understand my issues, English is not my native language.


Salutations, Best regards, Schöne Grüße,
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« Réponse #5 le: 13 Novembre 2017 à 16:13:10 »

1)   Otto: He is stated as an “Escort” kind of fighter. He is the only one of the convoy characters. Should he not be “Guardian”?
2)   Friedrich: “Insatiable”: Is that +1 VIG bonus always referred to the basic characteristic of a fighter, or also to the modified characteristic of the opponent (for example bonus of Vassiliev “double strike”).
3)   Jeremias: His special ability should be “Hide” instead of “Cache”, right?
4)   Leo: “Good dog” refers to “Escort”. Same problem like explained with Otto. Makes more sense if it refers to “Guardian” for me.
5)   Mark: “Wolf trap”. What if the opponent fighter has a mount (for example unicicle). Does he also suffer a wound in the leg, or gets the bike checked for one point? Additionally in equipment, the “pui(2)” should be replaced with “Str(2)”.
6)   Erhard: Is it true that in contrary to “First Aid”, the ability “Medi-Kit” is not usable on Erhard himself?
7)   Special rules of the convoy: Should “Escort” be replaced by “Guardian”? I am not very sure about what does “mostly composed of” mean. If I field 3 Tracker, 2 Guardian and 2 Conveyor, the tracker has a higher number than guardian or conveyor, but not the highest number in total. So, if I consider “number of fighters”, I think I do not get the bonus, right? If I field 2 Tracker, 2 Guardian and 1 Conveyor, can I choose the bonus of Tracker?
8)   In general: If a mount (like unicycle) is completely checked, do additional hits in location 5 or 6 have no effect or do the legs get hit (the location 4). I guess, they have no effect unless I relocate and pay with hits until I get to the legs.

If you want, I am willing to help with translations into German language too, not only Convoy, but maybe all EDEN cards. But to be able, I thought it might make sense to have a 100% correct English version of the cards. Please don’t get me wrong, this should not be an “smart-ass” post, I just want to make EDEN more accessible for new players. Sorry for the long post but I really hope you can help me here. I hope you are able to understand my issues, English is not my native language.


Salutations, Best regards, Schöne Grüße,
Zerebrus

Willkommen !

to answer to your questions :

1/ Otto is a Guardian, "Escort" is a bad translation of the french world "escorteur"
2/ It's a permanent capacity so it evolve during the game with bonus/malus opponent (in your example, when Vassiliev hit the first time, Friedrich doesn't have the +1VIG but he gain immediately +1VIG when Vassiliev use double strike).
3/ Joker ! I don't know if somebody else use this capacity. Whatever the name, the wording is correct !
4/ indeed sir !
5/ Pui for "puissance" means "strengh" Str in french, it's a mistake.  Actually whatever if the target have a mount, he always suffer a wound in the leg. It's a trap !
6/ It's true. To be apply to himself, a fighter do have his name in the capacity's description.
7/ Use Guardian insteed of Escort. For the Convoy special rule:  In your example, 3 trackers, 2 guardians and 2 conveyor, you have the tracker's bonus, because 3 T > 2C and 3T > 2G. If you have 2 of each type you choose the bonus.

When the mount is completely checked, additionnal hits in the mount location are left. You have to relocate it.

Hope I can help !
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« Réponse #6 le: 13 Novembre 2017 à 16:28:12 »

Hi !

It's always good to see foreign players coming. Welcome here !
I'll try to answer your questions.

1) There are only 3 types of fighters in Convoy. So indeed, Escort most probably refers to Guardian every time it's being used.
2) You consider the effective combat of the ennemy warrior. If he's wounded, uses an ability or a tactical card you have to take that into account, this may grant Friedrich with the VIG bonus.
3) In french, Jeremias' ability is named Cachette, wich means hiding place. I'd say "Cache" is also a possible translation of it, but I'm not a native english speaker.  :D I think the german word for it is Versteck.
4) refer to 1) ^^
5) Mark's traps hit the legs. It doesn't hit the location 6. So yep, always in the legs.
6) Any ability that targets an ally does NOT affect the model using this ability, unless the contrary is stated in the description.
7) You simply check how many fighters of each type you have. You get the bonus for the type you have the most. If you have as many of several types, you can choose the bonus.
8 ) If you hit a mount that is already destroyed, you have to re-locate the wounds, otherwise they're lost.


And to conclude, if you're willing to help I'd suggest you to send an email to happy games factory.  ;)
Have fun !


Edit : Fanckem was faster than me.  ;D
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« Réponse #7 le: 13 Novembre 2017 à 19:59:37 »

I thank both of you very much for the quick and perfect answers. Merci beaucoup!
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« Réponse #8 le: 16 Novembre 2017 à 10:38:37 »

Hey guys, nice to see some Germans in here!

we got a small group of eden players in south germany (freiburg). and a gaming store recently started selling eden in our town. so if you are near, check out "freispiel", there is alot of space to play eden too!
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« Réponse #9 le: 16 Novembre 2017 à 15:42:50 »

Good news ! I'm french, but for my next hollidays in Alsace, why not cross the border and make a few game with german fellows ! :D
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« Réponse #10 le: 16 Novembre 2017 à 15:46:53 »

Awesome, just let us know early enough and we will make it happen!
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