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Hasan
« le: 28 Juin 2019 à 01:46:54 »

Hi Survivors,

Here is a question concerning Hasans skill "Parietal impregnation":

1.When you use this skill the target allied fighter gets the ability to
   perform  a charge, attack or movement  outside the max. number upon
   aktivation and also gets the AP to perform this action for free?

2.When you can choose the action why would you ever choose move?
    (Because in the rules it says:  If you can't charge because of the
    distance  it becomes a movement  automatically)


Thanks in advance

Tamanto
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Re : Hasan
« Réponse #1 le: 28 Juin 2019 à 10:16:33 »

Hi!

1. Technically you do not get the AP, you just perform the action for free.

2. Sometimes you just need to go far away, and moving 4 times is a good way to do it! ;)
But yes, technically, you could chose to do fail a charge instead of moving. But why would you do so?

For your information, Hasan is on our toplist for errata, and we will come soon with a open beta-testing phase.
And Parietal impregnation will be changed, as it is far too powerful now.
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Re : Hasan
« Réponse #2 le: 28 Juin 2019 à 20:58:01 »

Thanks for the reply!

Played my first game against Hasan and got wipped in round three. This skill is really strong. Good to know he is in the upcoming errata ( for dante's player at least ;))

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Re : Hasan
« Réponse #3 le: 19 Juillet 2019 à 12:00:45 »

Hi,

i am not sure if i understand it right...

Example:

1) Hasan gives a free Charge to Sharir. Sharir charges for free an enemy and kills him with this Charge. Sharir can Charge an other enemy (2AP) and then attack him again. (1 free Charge, 1 Charge (2ap) and 1 attack) is this correct?

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Re : Hasan
« Réponse #4 le: 19 Juillet 2019 à 12:08:10 »

Yes correct ;)

And you can even add the 1PS mouvement of Sharir itself, and then I think you will start to get why Hasan need to get an errata pretty fast!  :D
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Re : Hasan
« Réponse #5 le: 19 Juillet 2019 à 12:18:14 »

Hasan is strong (maybe too strong) but the combination with sharir is what makes it overpowered.

Maybe all other askaris Players gonna hate me, but i think sharir is too strong.

naturaly he Comes with 5 Actions (3AP, and 1 move with sp and one dodge with sp).

So i played them together and put Charge from Hasan on him:

1) Tactical Card Adrenaline on sharir
2) free Charge from Hasan on sharir
3) Sharir had 1 free Charge (normaly 2 AP) + 1 AP through adrenaline + his normal 3 AP + 1 move (SP) + 1 dodge (SP) = 8 AP in total...

So the new askaris starter is a bit to hard

Normaly you have 3 AP for each Miniatur =9 AP
But Askaris starter:
Hasan 3 AP + neuro-spinal Loop (1AP) = in most times 4 AP + Charge for free 2AP
Wanashab 3 AP
Sharir 3 AP + move + dodge = 5 AP
So 3 miniatures 14 AP, normal 4 miniatures = 12 AP...

I really love askaris, but this Combo is too strong :-)
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Re : Re : Hasan
« Réponse #6 le: 19 Juillet 2019 à 12:21:01 »

Hasan is strong (maybe too strong) but the combination with sharir is what makes it overpowered.

Maybe all other askaris Players gonna hate me, but i think sharir is too strong.

naturaly he Comes with 5 Actions (3AP, and 1 move with sp and one dodge with sp).

So i played them together and put Charge from Hasan on him:

1) Tactical Card Adrenaline on sharir
2) free Charge from Hasan on sharir
3) Sharir had 1 free Charge (normaly 2 AP) + 1 AP through adrenaline + his normal 3 AP + 1 move (SP) + 1 dodge (SP) = 8 AP in total...

So the new askaris starter is a bit to hard

Normaly you have 3 AP for each Miniatur =9 AP
But Askaris starter:
Hasan 3 AP + neuro-spinal Loop (1AP) = in most times 4 AP + Charge for free 2AP
Wanashab 3 AP
Sharir 3 AP + move + dodge = 5 AP
So 3 miniatures 14 AP, normal 4 miniatures = 12 AP...

I really love askaris, but this Combo is too strong :-)
Don't worry errata is coming.  ;)
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Re : Hasan
« Réponse #7 le: 19 Juillet 2019 à 12:28:56 »

But don't forget it's a 75 points combo ;).
(And by the way, most of the time the combo used is Hasan + Avella, even stronger than Hasan + Sharir).

But yes, it's one of the main trouble in Eden for the moment. But we are working on it ;)
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Re : Hasan
« Réponse #8 le: 19 Juillet 2019 à 12:39:26 »

why with avella?

i prefer almeh over avella, because agile is easier to dodge and the armor of avella is only legs and Torso. Avellas Acrobat is good, but most of the time i give her +5cm move and no sideeffects so she could move around enemys easy...

is it only because of more whit hp in some limbs?

another question:

i think the Defender is in a bad spot right now.
if you give him +5 cm move, he is at Speed 3/2
if you give him ignore wounded state his selfheal doesn't work...
or do i get something wrong?
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Re : Re : Hasan
« Réponse #9 le: 19 Juillet 2019 à 13:27:39 »

why with avella?

i prefer almeh over avella, because agile is easier to dodge and the armor of avella is only legs and Torso. Avellas Acrobat is good, but most of the time i give her +5cm move and no sideeffects so she could move around enemys easy...

is it only because of more whit hp in some limbs?
No, it's because you can move across scenery (is that traduction ok? ???) : so you can attack from a long distance and then go back to safety easily....


another question:

i think the Defender is in a bad spot right now.
if you give him +5 cm move, he is at Speed 3/2
if you give him ignore wounded state his selfheal doesn't work...
or do i get something wrong?
I think Defender is fine, since he is the only one with 5 on CHEST at 30pts, so we see him on the table sometimes...
Must of the one i saw used one of the 2 shoot equipment as "mech increase". And everything is "good" as "hand increase"
Of course you will loose your selfheal if you ignore wounded state, but you will be sure to stay at CHEST 5 the entire game, and that is hudge! But you can also add a dice to combat rools : quite nice if you play with the dmg shoot equipment. You can play with 3/2 RAP, it's not such a big deal since you got a 5 CHEST to tank enemy shoots.
You can also choose the one which enable you to interrupt at 4 Speed, can be useful...
So : you got a choice to make, and that is what make a game interesting.


But this is more strategy than rules, so i will let better Askari players answer you  ;) ;)

PS : sorry i don't know Eden technical english wording (card names for example), but i hope you still can understand me....
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Re : Hasan
« Réponse #10 le: 19 Juillet 2019 à 14:09:07 »

Hi this is Acrobat.

hmm i ll give her a try :-)

all fine, your english works very well
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